Mon, Jun 27, 2011
Subject: London RV Conference Report
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Frank Bell Reports at Iraq Finance Conf in London
Frank Bell, COO of Sterling Currency Group is attending the Iraq Finance Conference 2012. Look for video news briefings from the conference each day. Visit https://www.sterlingcurrencygroup.com for more.
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9-17-2012 Newshound Guru Enorrste while the CBI may have changed plans to go from a direct RV to a "free float", it clearly has NOT changed plans to get the value of the dinar up to at least $1. This is extremely powerful, IMO, because as KAP [Kaperoni] noted…a free floating dinar is inconsistent with a LOP! Saleh's statement is consistent with our latest theory regarding a "free float" of the currency. If, as we expect, the currency is allowed to float in the very near future it could easily reach $3.50 by the end of 2014. In fact, we expect it to reach $1 by the end of this year, 2012.
9-17-2012 Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy To sum up, Talabani is back, Defense Minister is being nominated, they are going to try to resolve HCL dispute tomorrow and there is hope that now we may finally see a National Conference and a real breakthrough in the political crisis. Today's been a very positive news day. Let's hope that they do more than talk and we have some actual progress. The talk right now at least has me very encouraged.
9-17-2012 Newshound Guru Kaperoni First, it is important that we hold off on this new direction (free float vs. RV) until we get actual validation from the CBI. Until then, it is just a theory and my hopes are still for a straight out RV. I also want to caution everyone to not get overly excited about a “free float” of the dinar. Though we have two articles mentioning this idea, it has not come from the CBI as of yet. However, it may very well come out at the Iraqi Banking Conference Sept 18-19th, 2012. We have people at that conference listening and, hopefully, we can share their thoughts and information with you shortly. Now as for the “free float,” if true, it will absolutely end any discussion on the LOP. You cannot free float starting at 1166 and LOP the currency. End of story.
9-17-2012 Newshound Guru Administrator Bob This past weekend…an article came forward from the Arab Monetary Fund which discussed a possible "free float" of the New Iraqi Dinar. As it is Monday afternoon in the US, it is Tuesday in Europe, which means Iraqi Finance 2012 is about to begin. The next few days should be very interesting indeed.
9-17-2012 Newshound Guru Doc We do continue to see evidence of the key issues being addressed. We saw where the finance committee has received a draft 2013 budget and went as far to say that currency reform would not be an economic burden. Again we know this to be positive since Shabibi has stressed he wanted to go into 2013 budget year with the dinar as the currency of choice. And lastly the agenda for the economic summit in London includes the topic of international investment and currency reform. While these all are extremely positive we simply need the talk and planning to end and for Iraq to put into action these plans. Only then can we expect Shabibi to pull the trigger. We report, you decide. [post 2 of 2]
9-17-2012 Newshound Guru Doc We continued to be amazed at statements like "there is no way we will get out of September without this being done." Those who make this type of statement are ignoring Iraq's past performance. With this we are not suggesting it will or will not happen in September or any other month. What we know from the past is that there are certain circumstances that will preclude the RV and to date these have not been put into place. We also know from past history Iraq is notorious for not meeting deadlines. This is amplified once again by the fact the new currency is not in circulation and was reported to be so by September 1. We continue with our presumption that until we see concrete evidence that issues like a fully seated GOI, Ebril and the likes have in fact been implemented then the RV is still pending in the future. [post 1 of 2….stay tuned]
9-17-2012 Newshound/Intel Guru BGG Article quote: "President Jalal Talabani will arrive in Sulaymaniyah at seven o’clock this evening. …Talabani will meet immediately after arriving in Sulaymaniyah with members of the Political Bureau of the Union." This is what we’ve been waiting for…let’s hope it all goes well.
9-17-2012 Newshound Guru Med RIGHT NOW IT SURELY SEEMS THAT CBI IS REALLY MOVING QUICKLY ON GETTING IRAQI BANKS RECOGNIZED…THIS IS IMPORTANT. WE ALSO SEE HOW THEY ARE DISCUSSING WHAT KIND OF WAY THEY WILL USE TO CONTROL THE EXCHANGE RATE. I PERSONALLY STILL THINK IT WILL BE THE BASKET. WE HAVE THE SUMMIT…IN THE UK IN LIKE TWO DAYS…SEEMS THAT SHABS IS OUT TO SELL A BILL OF GOOD…MAKING HIS PLUG BEFORE THE RV. TO ME WE ARE WITHIN POSSIBLY 10 DAYS OF AN RV BUT IT COULD GO TO END OF NOVEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER DEPENDING ON HOW THE BUDGET IS MOVING ALONG.
9-17-2012 Intel Guru TerryK 3.86 IS WHAT I GOT YESTERDAY .0032 IN THE GAZETTE. WAS TOLD .0032 WHICH CONVERTED IS 3.86. [hmmmm…there must be some confusion, these numbers don’t add up?] THATS WHAT IT IS TO COME OUT AT, WHAT IM HEARING, SO YEP A RI. TREAT AS RUMOR. GOT THAT TWO DAYS AGO. WE DID VERIFY THAT THE LOW DENOMS ARE OUT BUT NOT OF ANY VALUE. [have you heard anything about the dong recently??] .62 is what i got last week and it WILL GO WITH THE DINAR, MAKE NO MISTAKE.
9-17-2012 Newshound Guru 8Ball Talibani coming home…agreement with the Kurds…the next logical step is that the security ministers will be appointed…
9-17-2012 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 [Referencing Poppy3 post 1 of 2, dated 9-16-12] I AM THINKING FROM READING THIS IT SAYS EXACTLY QUOTE ( IRAQ HAS A TOTAL OF 76 TRILLION IN CURRENT MONETARY ASSETS )THIS MAY BE COUNTING ALL OIL GOLD ETC IN ASSETS. NOT JUST DOLLARS. AND I AM SURE THAT IS IN TRILLIONS. I WILL CALL…A FRIEND OF MINE…THAT WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF ERNST & YOUNG The group that did the audit and get him to explain for sure because I was thinking Billions not Trillions but i assure you I have a copy of the report page and it says Trillion.
cruiser] Hi and good evening all!!!
[cruiser] Why is everyone so fixated on Iraq? All you have to do is look at July 2012. Iraq is producing 2m barrels of oil a day. Trading with European countries. Hmmmmm. How do u do this while under Chapter 7?
DRAKEFORTRUTH] Everybody is wasting to much time on Iraq, and all these news articles, it has no bearing on us unless Iraq goes to war, the process is started and we are waiting, and unless you need to fill your time reading stuff, relax
[Tenizen] cruiser Its pretty dine… multiple sources have verified articles that we have looked to for this whole thing coming to an end. IMO, this week should pan out in favor
[jetpack] Reality check : could things have changed & decision made to free float vs rv? Sure it's possible but if I think rate will climb very fast, but still could just be RI or RV, no one knows for sure should be interesting week
[berberboy] DRAKEFORTRUTH i'm asking with all due respect, if thats true why do all (or most) of the sites including this one post all the stuff coming out of iraq?
[DRAKEFORTRUTH] berberboy ok then really no need to discuss, Opinions are all that are out there, and not one of them have ever been correct
[chrivers] cruiser so r u excited about all the meetings going on?? Shabibi in London, Maliki in NY. Talabani in Kurdistan??
Source confirms that the state law seeks to nominate a replacement for the current Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki Among the candidates (Ali al-Adeeb and Hussain al-Shahristani).
"that state law seeks to nominate a replacement for the owners that have impeded the march of his government many problems with the only political forces at the center or with the Kurdistan region."
[glk] Hi stlou
[stlou] read the article.. am I reading this right?
[Med] stlou that is about as good a news as we can get
[BondLady] but falls within the new monetary policy the sale of bonds and gold to home will not be a substitute for foreign currency, but falls within the new monetary policy
[campdav] That is huge " New Monetary Policy" As in new rate IMO
[BondLady] and they sent out the instructions
[dinardoe] so exactly what is the new monetary policy? RV or free Float
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[millionday] hello everyone how are ya roundtable in a few and i am going to start with where we are and what we need let's get started i have something's to tell you today
[millionday] the parliament is to address maliki on the ministers and the infrastructure law is on the table – talabani is home but in kurdistan with barzani
[millionday] tonight maliki leaves for new York and tomorrow – the un general assembly
[millionday] and the committee is expected to have the last of the amnesty and hcl done – the erbil is to be activated today tomorrow or within the week
[millionday] the banking conference for iraq starts tomorrow — shabibi will be going to london tonight
[millionday] we should have many announcements this week to say the least so that is where we are — talabani will be in iraq tomorrow —maybe late the printing of these laws in the gazzette will be directly after so this is where we are
Will open the Baghdad Stock Exchange and infiltrated.. Conference in London will turn Iraq into a bank to finance the bankrupt states
Author: the future of Iraq 17/09/2012 12:00 am BAGHDAD / future Iraqi
parliamentary sources said that a high-level Iraqi delegation will attend a conference on investment in the banking sector and banks in Iraq to be held in the British capital London. Sources indicate that the conference will make Iraq a bank to finance the rescue bankrupt economies and banks in Europe and the United States, as is the case with the GCC banking sector. The sources also indicated that if this plan has, will make the Baghdad market securities exposed, and infiltrated by foreign companies, in return for a scenario that occurred in Southeast Asia in the eighties and caused the bankruptcy of those countries.
[Shredd] yes! That aricle woke me up more than my coffee!
|The below posts were in our 10am email|
MOST WILL BE VERY SHOCKED…..BECAUSE MANY WILL HAVE TO HOLD ONTO THEIR DINAR FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD TO GET THE VALUE OUT OF IT…..
[tmac096] alot of anticipation in the air the past few days
THE DINAR IS NOT GOING TO COME OUT OF THE GATE AT 1 TO 1
YES GLK I AM BETTING BETWEEN 10 CENTS AND ABOUT 28 CENTS TO START
9-17-2012 SWFloridaGuy: To sum up, Talabani is back, Defense Minister is being nominated, they are going to try to resolve HCL dispute tomorrow and there is hope that now we may finally see a National Conference and a real breakthrough in the political crisis.
Today's been a very positive news day. Let's hope that they do more than talk and we have some actual progress. The talk right now at least has me very encouraged.
9-17-2012 ISCI: Talabani's return will be inductive to crisis breakthrough. The return of President Jalal Talabani will allow holding new dialogues in Iraq with hope of finding solutions to the political disputes. Talabani has good relations with most of the political blocs and he can contribute to the convergence of views. Talabani could end disputes upon his return by calling a National Conference where all political parties meet to look at ways of putting an end to political disputes in the country. Read more LINK
9-17-2012 Capt Ron: I think we truly may have arrived. The synchronized events of Chapter 7 talks, the return of Talabani to Iraq, and the deadline of the oil companies to Iraq for payment. Also, the logistics of effecting a RV seem to be in place at the banking levels. I've never seen it all lined up so well before now.
9-17-2012 Austin-Powers-For-PM: It's hard to tell things from one photo, but he looks good, and since he's walking on his own he might just be back up to full speed. I agree that now it's official that he's back, all the puzzle pieces should start to fall in place rapidly. Ya gotta know he's been on video conference calls with all the players for the past 6 weeks, so for him to show up tells me it's show time!!!
[~SpiritualWarrior] vic1tgk Hey brotherman! Welcome!!!
[vic1tgk] Good day and Hello to everyone! No questions just a very important message to all! post at Dinar Recaps as well! The gatekeepers Team call tomorrow will be very informative call! We have a very important guest that will be talking LIVE from the Iraq Banking Seminar in LONDON!!! This is HOW WE DO IT!!! Please continue to post through out the day!!! You do not want to MISS this CALL!!! Vic1tgk
[vic1tgk] The Gatekeepers Team Conference Call… Tuesday September 18, 2012! Main Call# (760) 569- 7676 pin# 378652, back up number is (559) 546-1400 follow prompts! 8:00 EST.
[texasmawmaw] vic1tgk would that be the same pin # on the backup # as on the 1st #
[vic1tgk] texasmawmaw the back up number ask for prompts… yes, the 760 569 7676…pin#378652!
[vic1tgk] You all hold down the fort till I get back!!! We are seeing things speed up like no bodies business! Hold tight and Hang ON!!!
[TpW] vic1tgk last night's call was great
[vic1tgk] TpW Thanx…
[vic1tgk] BBL Brotherman, Vic
9-17-2012 Reidar Visser (Modern Iraq Historian): It looks as if it is going to be a long session for Iraq's parliament today, so here are some initial reflections on the reported vote by parliament to approve 8 out of 9 new members of the country's independent electoral commission (IHEC).
All that follows is based on the assumption that initial press reports about the vote and the identity of the new councilors are correct. The official parliamentary report is due later today and should be taken as the final word. For many weeks, the battlefront regarding the make-up of the new electoral commission board has concerned its size.
The decision last week to keep the current size of the board (9 members) was seen as a setback for Prime Minister Maliki, who had apparently hoped to expand the board to 15 with the aim of diluting the political influence of his enemies.
mr_shoemake] had dinner last night with my wifes uncle who was the president of the world bank last night he said be patient it will come
[mr_shoemake] 2012jesus he aluded that the thing holding this back was government in iraq he has been retired for 12 years but an invester for 9
[xyz] http://www.almustakbalpa ··· ID=27774 Sources indicate that the conference will make Iraq a bank to finance the rescue bankrupt economies and banks in Europe and the United States, as is the case with the GCC banking sector. The sources also indicated that if this plan has, will make the Baghdad market securities exposed, and infiltrated by foreign companies, in return for a scenario that occurred in Southeast Asia in the eighties and caused the bankruptcy of those countries
[okrocks] Sources indicate that the conference will make Iraq a bank to finance the rescue bankrupt economies and banks in Europe and the United States…
[okrocks] soooooooooo how will they do that??? would have to be an RV I would think….
2 sides of the coin – in iraq's hands or out – let's discuss nicely/professionally
IMO, We can break most of the dinarian world down into two groups. One that follows the articles and one that follows intel/rumors/contacts.
1. It is still in Iraq's hands (Randy K, Frank, Delta, BGG, POPPY, IQD team, LJ, MED, Enorste, Kap, SWFG, DOC, AC, Wang Dang and many others)
Let's discuss scenario one:
IF it is still in Iraq's hands, S wants Erbil (power sharing) and a seated GOI IMPLEMENTED along with HCL/140 before he will open the window for the RV. IF scenario #1 is correct, it looks like Iraq is making lots of progress towards implementation of key milestones that S is looking for in order for us to see the RV. IF scenario #1 is right, we have an excellent chance of seeing the RV by the end of the year.
Let's discuss scenario two:
averysgrampa: BWM Excuse me sir, I was just wandering, at this juncture what are your thoughts on the imapct that the Quantitive Easing will have on this outcome, and perhaps will it expedite this investment at all?
BWM: averysgrampa there are a couple of thoughts on that (since you took the trouble to google what QE meant)
[BWM] first, the banks needed hard currency in order to fulfill the cashin procedures…. let's face it, everyone who cashes in has been programmed to asked for "some" money… so unless they limit us to like 50 bucks each they won't have enough hard currency to operate daily business AND allow us to gather cash… so it would make sense that this QE was about actually printing hard currency as part of the process…
[BWM] secondly, while I don't think this will "hide" the process it will be an explanation for the amount of hard currency available now to dinarians and others. If the fed now says there's 40 billion more dollars available a month it will make the idea of ppl at the bank a whole lot easier to explain
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RV and Float, Removing the Confusion
I realize that no matter how clearly I write this the confusion will continue. So, drop whatever is confusing you, read, and learn.
Nothing has changed. The plan of action has not changed. The plan of implementation of the Dinar has not changed. All this huge whirlwind of confusion that is taking place right now about a floating Dinar has not changed anything, period.
There are so many issues and there is so much absolute confusion out there in just the last couple of days that it is going to be difficult to sort this out so I will just start.
There has always been only one plan to introduce the new Dinar into the Iraqi economy. Only one, period. People, stop dreaming up other stuff! The plan was and is to de-dollarize the economy by replacing dollars with Dinars over a period of time and then let the Dinar seek its own value on the international market by the normal means, i.e., to let it value itself up on the foreign exchange markets. That's it. There isn't much more to it than that. I mean, give me a break here. You act like you have never heard of floating a currency before! You act like this is big news. It isn't.
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