Dinar RV Bubble – Ikleshiemer, Morton & Vandergould

Reuter's & Judge Dale
Sun, Jan 20, 2013
Subject: Silver Eagle Sales Halted
www.MorningLiberty.com

We must not ignore the United Nations is not for a peaceful honest world. With that said, since David Wynn Miller wrote the UN¹s present constitution (nevermind DWM doesn¹t know about agenda 21 ­ how would he if he is on the inside, not the outside looking in), is looking to world government, world money etc, how can one even consider DWM has true independence in mind for people of the world… This Dinar RV explanation by Judge Dale (posted yesterday) highlights what is wrong with the UN, as we all know, they¹re a bully.

³ The Chinese have NO designs on World Domination and still they are responsible for championing the RV internationally. Seventy-one Countries opposed the RV because it meant the destruction of their FIAT based currency and government. All of those Countries are United Nations members. Now isn't that curious?²

"The Dinar and Dong RV" Thoughts by Judge Dale
Emailed to Recaps
01/17/2013
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/01/the-dinar-and-dong-rv-thoughts-by-judge-dale-emailed-to-recaps.html

U.S. MINT OUT OF AMERICAN EAGLE SILVER COINS, SUSPENDS SALES – 1/18/13

Latest Headlines

U.S. Mint Runs Out Of American Eagle Silver Coins, Suspends Sales

*Reuters* | Posted: 01/18/2013

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1-18-2013 Intel Guru Blaino Iraq is many things…But in charge of "the rv" is not one of them, sadly. Rather, there are other entities and treaties that will regulate the time and nature of the revaluation, but in the interim, 'iraq' is the convenient excuse to allow other matters to be settled, and they are indeed working in that direction. I am bound by certain fealty and others to say little more at this time, but the hour approaches when all mystery will vanish like morning dew in the desert!

1-18-2013 Newshound/Intel Guru Bluedog watch what starts coming out after Fridays meeting and don't get me wrong a lot…much has been arranged last Tues eve…but Friday will unleash a great deal more things that we have been waiting for…they will start to show Saturday and Sunday what they have accomplished and its BIG! [post 3 of 3]

1-18-2013 Newshound/Intel Guru Bluedog Yes we are CLOSE because this meeting would never taken place…when Talabani was trying or talking of a National Conference…he knew the Timing was just not right yet, thats why he spent 3 months in Germany to prolong the situation…The timing is right now so Talabani had a very bad Health issue and Jaafari took over to put this forth…as we seen today that some agreements are now coming out and being finalized. [post 2 of 3….stay tuned]

1-18-2013 Newshound/Intel Guru Bluedog This national Meeting that took place at Jaafaris Home Tuesday nite lasted 3 hours…a lot and I mean a lot has been agreed on…this is a Major move for a young Democracy that is about to take a currency from nothing to a High rate…HCL and just all the Agreements that have lingered for 2 years or more have been laid out in this meeting. Friday they will have another Meeting…butwhat they did is laid the frame work to when and each agreement is to come out to the world. [post 1 of 3….stay tuned]

1-18-2013 Intel Guru Bluwolf people have been asking me about some rates that some are seeing in some forex sites. First of allthey are what we call place holders and not real rates, the real rates are just behind those holders and when given the get go poof they shall appear…Second the real rates shall be seen in all banks and forex sites not in a hands full like you are seeing today …Third all valuable sources are just silent plain and simple.

1-18-2013 Intel Guru Blaino No change at the CBI…The final arbiter of the value of the currency and the exchange rate. Could it be REAL…WELL… Lets look that over. There are many newspapers that are not showing the values today, when they usually do. There are even more that have some issue with their internet sites even opening…One has to ask "why?" some speculate that there is a rule that "it has to be printed somewhere…And this is the one place that was CHOSEN…This TIME"…Hummmm…..???? Nothing on fox news or fox bussines…Nothing in the MARKETS….So, could it be true anyway? There is only the one answer to that question…"mebby!"

1-18-2013 Newshound Guru Tlar Yesterday I said Maliki has left the country. I stand by what I said. The NA having an emergency meeting and reporting Maliki was at this meeting doesn't surprise me assuming they are trying to hold onto power. Their boss is toast and they realize it but until he has been reported to flee they are still in charge and can negotiate who will be the next PM. If he is reported gone, the NA does not have enough loyal members to control the outcome. It is to their benefit to make people think Maliki is still in charge for the next few days and the way to remove him is to negotiate and install a new PM from the NA…unless I read that Maliki has actually been seen in the last few days by someone other than the NA, I stand by what I said.

1-18-2013 Newshound Guru Doc Many other reports talk about UST, IMF and other dignitaries meeting with Iraq. My sites have linked this to a definite RV by month's end. While we do not totally dismiss this as a remote possibility, we also suggest these dignitaries represent those that have invested heavily in Iraq. Given the fact that the PM may be on his way out and the CBI head has changed we would think if we were those investors we would want to personally see whats going on. We would also want to make sure the new players are on board to get Iraq back in the international community as a financial power. Does this mean RV in next few days? Probably not but it does mean the international community is ensuring things are moving toward that end. We view this as extremely positive. We report, you decide. [post 4 of 4]

1-18-2013 Newshound Guru Doc We need to be careful in separating comments between raising the value of the dinar and the RV. In almost all cases the quotes about raising the value in coming days are in reference to short term efforts to get the dinar back to the program rate of 1170. The street value has been recently reported at over 1400. These efforts are in response to the citizens uproar over their declining purchasing power. We really don't see this changing in that the USD is still the true currency in Iraq. We do not believe this will change until the dinar is close to par with the USD. [post 3 of 4….stay tuned]

1-18-2013 Intel Guru BWM according to contact in Iraq…the in country rate for the dinar had been trading within a 100 points of the 1166 rate…as late it had been running about 1218… according to daily number it looks like the printing was setup for a 1/1000 scale which means that was .0009 or 1111 to 1 which is moving the right direction and hopes are that things may be moving but are not to the point that we would like to see just yet.

1-18-2013 Intel Guru Winalot OMG!!!!! i think i just found something!!!! Iraqi dinar exchange rate for the day Dollar: 0.9 Euro: 0.6 Pounds: 0.5 LBP: 1292.3 KD: 0.2 SR: 3.2 AED: 3.2 JD: 0.6 . yesterday, same paper – 1166. that looks like an RV to me!!!!!! that would be the in country rate. They will get their bump from purchase POWER. They will not see $3 on country. [This is very exciting, remember we’re looking for a consensus from our other Intel & Newshound Gurus, and reports from our nearly 40,000 Dinar Guru members from around the world…so far this is only one report.]

1-18-2013 Newshound Guru Doc Other news is focused on chapter 7 and is positive also. One report put it as simply as all Iraq needs to do is finish the commitments to Kuwait which are not many left. This shows progress but also tells us it has not been lifted and Iraq still has a little left to do. The news that concerns us the most is that the HCL does not appear any closer to resolution. Bazarini is talking about and new form of government for the Kurds and oil is being processed through Turkey. We see this as the most critical issue left on the table before any RV. Iraq needs to secure a steady flow of oil from the Kurds to support the value of the dinar. [post 2 of 4….stay tuned]

1-18-2013 Newshound Guru Doc We continue to watch as the news out of Iraq continues very positive. It now appears based on several reports the opposition against Maliki is strong and includes many from the NA which could easily spell his undoing. We see him doing one of two things which are cutting a deal to remain but giving up much power or being forced out. In either case we view this as positive as it should move the GOI to better stability and a true democracy. However, we are confident Maliki has a trick or two left up his sleeve. [post 1 of 4….stay tuned]

1863 Bankers Circular (prospetus)from Rothschild Bank to open a bank in US & list the benefits
an accounting back to 45 A.D. of the evil bankers

http://www.thinkorbeeaten.com/informer/2%20A%20COUNTRY%20DEFEATED%20IN%20VICTORY1.pdf

Rothschild Brothers, Bankers,
London, England
June 25th, 1863

Messrs. Ikleheimer, Morton, and Vandergould,
No. 3 Wall St., New York, U.S.A.

Dear Sir:
A Mr. John Sherman has written us from a town in Ohio, U.S.A., as to the profits that may be made in the National Banking business under a recent act of your Congress, a copy of which act accompanied his letter. Apparently this act has been drawn upon the plan formulated here last summer by the British Bankers Association and by the Association RECOMMENDED TO OUR AMERICAN FRIENDS as one that if enacted into law, would prove highly profitable to the
banking fraternity throughout the world.

Mr. Sherman declares that there has never been such an opportunity for capitalists to accumulate money, as that presented by this act, and that the old plan of State Banks is so unpopular, that the new scheme will, by contrast, be most favorably regarded, notwithstanding the fact that it gives the National Banks an almost absolute control of the National finance.

`THE FEW WHO CAN UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM,' HE SAYS, `WILL EITHER BE SO
INTERESTED IN ITS PROFITS, OR SO DEPENDENT OF ITS FAVORS THAT THERE
WILL BE NO OPPOSITION FROM THAT CLASS, WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND, THE
GREAT BODY OF PEOPLE, MENTALLY INCAPABLE OF COMPREHENDING THE
TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGES THAT CAPITAL DERIVES FROM THE SYSTEM, WILL
BEAR ITS BURDENS WITHOUT COMPLAINT AND PERHAPS WITHOUT EVEN
SUSPECTING THAT THE SYSTEM IS INIMICAL TO THEIR INTERESTS.'

Please advise fully as to this matter and also state whether or not you will be of assistance to us, if we conclude to establish a National Bank in the City of New York. If you are acquainted with Mr. Sherman we will be glad to know something of him. If we avail ourselves of the information he furnished, we will, of course, make DUE COMPENSATION." (emphasis mine)

"Awaiting your reply,

we are "Your respectful servants,

"Rothschild Brothers."

[Mr. Sherman was a member of Congress from 1860-1890, he was responsible for almost every
banking legislation that was passed during that time.]

——————————————Bankers Circular——————————————————

New York City, July 6, 1863.
Messrs. Rothschild Brothers
London, England

"BANKERS PRINTED CIRCULAR"
"IKLEHEIMER, MORTON, AND VANDERGOULD

"Private Bankers, Brokers, Financial Agents, etc.
"3 Wall Street, New York City

"We have had so many inquiries of late as to the method of organizing national banks under the recent act of Congress, and as to the profits that may reasonably be expected from such an
investment, that we have thought it best to issue this brief circular as an answer to all questions of our friends and clients:

"1-Any number of persons, not less than five, may organize a national banking corporation.

"2–Except in cities having 6,000 inhabitants or less, a national bank can not have less than
$1,000,000 capital.

"3–They are private corporations organized for private gain, and select their own officers and
employees.

"4–They are not subject to the control of the state laws, except as congress may from time to
time provide.

"5–They can receive deposits and loan the same for their own benefit. (loans to themselves)

"6–They can buy and sell bonds, and discount paper and do a general banking business. (yes the banks still do this just using your signature on a note. or buying bonds)

"7–To start a national bank on the scale of $1,000,000 will require the purchase of that amount
(par value) of U.S. Government bonds. ( do you understand this, probably not)

"8–U.S. Government bonds can now be purchased at 50 per cent discount, so that a bank of
$1,000,000 capital can be started at this time with only $500,000. ( OK – only put up $500k for the bond and get the 6% yearly income from the $1million U.S. Govt Bond = $60k/yr, so that is 12% return on the $500k…. nice deal – that banks still do)

"9–These bonds must be deposited with the U.S. Treasury at Washington as security for the
national Bank currency, that on the making of the deposit will be furnished by the government to the bank.

"10-The U.S. Government will pay 6% interest on the bonds, in gold, the interest being paid
semi-annually. It will be seen that at the present price bonds, the interest paid by the government ( real money not IOU's from the Govt.) itself, will of itself amount 12 per cent in gold, on all the money invested.

"11-The U.S. Government, under the provisions of the national banking act, on having the bonds
aforesaid deposited with its treasurer, will on the strength of such security, furnish national
currency to the bank depositing the bonds, at an annual interest of only ONE per cent per annum. Thus the deposit of $1,000,000 will secure the issue of $900,000 in currency. ( banks still do this today on a larger scale)

"12-This currency is printed by the U.S. Government in a form so like greenback money, that
many people do not detect the difference, although the currency is but a promise of the bank to
pay-that is, it is the bank's demand note, and must be signed by the Bank's president before it can be used. (magic – Wow)

"13-The demand for money is so great that this currency can be readily loaned to the people
across the counter of the bank at a discount at the rate of 10 per cent at 30 days' to 60 days' time,making it about 12 per cent interest on the currency. (this is why Jesus drove the money changers out of the Temple, the Usury Law in the New Testament Scriptures)

"14-The interest on the bonds, plus the interest on the currency which the bonds secure, plus
incidentals of the business ought to make the gross earnings of the bank amount to from 28 to 33 1/3 per cent. (banks make 10 to 40 times that today) The amount of the dividends that may be declared will depend largely upon the salaries of the officers that the banks vote premises occupied by the bank as a place of business. In case it is thought best that the showing of profits should not appear too large, the now common plan of having the directors buy the bank building and then raising the rent and salary of the president and cashier may be adopted.

"15-National banks are privileged to either increase or contract their circulation at will, and, of
course, can grant or withhold loans as they may see fit. ( this is not fair is it) As the banks have a national organization,and can easily act together in withholding loans or extending them, it follows that they can by united action in refusing to make loans, cause a stringency in the money market and in a single week or even in a single day cause a decline in all the products of the country. The tremendous possibilities of speculation involved in this control of the money of a country like the United States will be at once understood by all bankers.

"16-National banks pay no taxes on their bonds, nor on their capital, nor on their deposits. This
exemption from taxation is based on the theory that the capital of these banks is invested in U.S. securities, and is a remarkable permission of the law. (the IRS is the banks in-laws)

"17-The secretary may deposit the public money with any bank at will, and to any amount. In the suit of Mr. Branch against the United States, reported in the 12th volume of the U.S. Court of Claims, Reports on Page 287, it was decided that such `Government deposits are rightfully
mingled with other funds of the bank, and are loaned or otherwise employed in the ordinary
business of the bank, and the bank becomes the debtor of the United States as it does to other
depositors.' "Requesting that you will regard this as strictly confidential and soliciting any favors in our line. (OK they are in bed together….with the Fed, — no kidding)

"Most respectfully yours,

"IKLESHIEMER, MORTON, & VANDERGOULD." (bank brokers)

WAKE UP you Lazy Sheep — still same today as in 1863


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    i’m german and currently researching the development that started with the fed res act in order to later find out what’s currently happening in europe and how all these bankers got into positions where elected people should be. i was intending to use a quote from the Rothschild / Ikleshiemer, Morton & Vandergould letters and came across two contra arguments i’m looking to falsify:

    1) The letters are dated 1863 but refer to the “Mr. Branch against the United States case”. According to “100 U.S. 673 – Branch v. United States” the case didn’t start before the 1870’s
    2) I can’t find any proof other than the letters of a Ikleshiemer, Morton & Vandergould company to have existed

    Any helpful clues on one or the other?

    Regs from Berlin

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