Okie Oil Man & Mnt Goat
Sat, Sept 28, 2013
Subject: Dinar RV Games
Currency Exchange Tips for handling the bank
- The bank will try to lowball you so be sure to use the CORRECT Terminology. DO NOT USE THE WORD dinar or dong.. or VND or IQD unless you WANT a LOWER rate … use only the terms VNN for the dong and IQN for the dinar.
- Let the person know that you don't want to pay any bank fees in making this deposit – nor any currency exchange "spread fee." Every single Branch Manager is able to remove the spread fees up until the UST spread fees. You only need to ask. If they say no.. GET UP and walk out letting them know you will go to a bank manager and bank who will.
- If you don't yet have an account – set up a NIB (non-interest bearing) account to park your money.
- If you have both dinar and dong.. open up two accounts – a separate one for each currency so that you don't have to pay higher taxes on the dong.
- Then hand the person your list of cashier checks to be make out to pay off your bills and have some made out to yourself to put into your checking account.
- Ask for (20) CCC (clean, clear of criminal origin) Certificates to take with you along with your cashier checks so when you make your deposit into your personal checking account you can hand one of the certificates to the teller – bank manager so they know where the money is coming from and so that your account won't be frozen.
[RAJAF] Two FINCEN forms have been provided by the IRS. One specifically identifies these transactions as "currency exchange" transactions. The other refers to them as "currency investments." DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES sign any document which treats your exchange as a "currency investment" or you will wind up paying as much as 39.5% in taxes*! The proper and ONLY form is Form 104. it already states "Currency "Exchange" in Part II number 33.* *"Currency "Exchange" (tax unknown, possibly 11%)*
Investments" will being taxed as Capital Gains*
9-26-2013 Intel Guru TerryK IF WHAT TONY IS SAYING IS TRUE AND MY SOURCES LINE UP WITH THE TIMING, RATES DIFFERENT BUT IT'S ALL GEARED FOR THIS WEEKEND. [you hearing rates that high?] 23.42 IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD FOR WEEKS. DONG I'M HEARING IS OVER 4. GETTING FROM SOURCE THAT THIS IS TO GO DOWN PRIOR TO OCT., SO WE ARE THERE. TONIGHT THRU THIS WEEKEND IS WHAT IM BEING TOLD. SOURCES ARE ALL EXCITED.
9-26-2013 Newshound Guru Mailman17 IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO ISSUE NOTES BASED ON THE 50, 250, 500 AND FOR THAT MATTER
THE 1000 FOR THEM TO USE IF THEY MAINTAIN A RATE OF 1166 AS THOSE DENOMS ARE USELESS. THIS TELLS ME THE CBI IS MORE OR LESS ANNOUNCING THE INTRO OF THE NEW NOTES…BASED ON THE NEW RATE. JMO
9-26-2013 Newshound Guru Mailman17 THE CBI STATING THEY NEED TO GET MORE SMALL DENOMS IN THE HANDS OF ITS PEOPLE DUE TO THE FACT THEY ARE SCARCE IS VERY TELLING. WE ALREADY KNOW THEY WERE SCARCE IN THE FIRST PLACE…HENCE PEOPLE USING SCOTCH TAPE TO TAPE THEM AS NEEDED. THE FACT THE CBI DIDNT MENTION LARGE DENOMS IS ALSO VERY TELLING AS TO ME IT SAYS THEY ARE SATISFIED WITH THE LARGE MOSTLY BEING OUT OF THE PEOPLES HANDS AND NOW, THE LOWERS AS WELL. [post 1 of 2….stay tuned]
9-26-2013 Intel Guru Loechin As of this moment, this second the rate is 23 plus change but if I were you guys I would switch those around when I go in and START there…as of today all I can say is the local WF here is ready to go and they will just call me. [If we don’t see anything by the time banks close today, would tomorrow while all banks are open be the next likely window?] We hope tonight.
9-26-2013 Newshound Guru Adam Montana [I’d like to know what’s your CURRENT (now) absolutely sincere feeling in terms of a RV occurring…..If possible expressed in %. 50%, 70%, 30% ? More? Less? Not asking about date and/or rate. Just your honest sincere feel in % of it happening.] I am 99% confident that we will see an increase in the value. I am 50/50 on it being an immediate increase to somewhere between .10 and $1. My odds on it coming out slightly lower, but still dramatically higher than it currently is, are greater than 50%. That's my two cents on it.
9-26-2013 Intel Guru Bluwolf Good afternoon, well banks are all hyped up all ready with personnel on standby, the walkin rates are out there and they are high. Remember there's a difference between buying your dinars and exchanging your dinars…its a CURRENCY EXCHANGE, THAT YOU ARE EXCHANGING YOUR IQN, VNN…AND YOU WILL BE A-OK. There are no glitches, no holdups, no delays… no ptb delays, just protocol and its timing…So now our wait shortens to minutes or a couple of days…
9-26-2013 Newshound Guru Tlar They will no longer be able to easily acquire loans from the WB as they did as a designated donor nation. Iraq has already started to donate. Instead of money, they have donated 100's of thousands of barrels of oil to nations in need like Jordan. I don't see this going into next year. I think that the rate will be as we have been told, 86 cents. So here is my prediction. 86 cents mostly likely sometime in October but surely before they open the 2014 budget. [post 2 of 2]
9-26-2013 Newshound Guru Tlar Here's what I see. Iraq will have an international currency between now and January or they will not be able to open the 2014 budget. In January, Iraq is scheduled to become a donor nation instead of its current designation, of recipient nation. They accepted this challenge from the WB and the IMF six months ago. They cannot join the WTO nor can they be a donor nation without a currency. [post 1 of 2….stay tuned]
9-26-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man LET US ALL BE AWAKE, ALERT AND HAVE FINAL PREPARATIONS MADE FOR OUR BLESSING.VERY POSITIVE INTEL FLOWING PRESENTLY. I HOPE TO LAND VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY —-SOON. HAVE COMPLETED FINAL PRE-LANDING CHECK LIST. STOP—-LOOK—-LISTEN—-FOR THE SOUND AND SIGHT OF AN F-4 SMOKE TRAIL–SHOULD BE VISABLE AND AUDIBLE VERY SOON.—-OUR BLESSINGS WILL (WILL ) BE GALORE.
9-26-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony I want you to know that everything is in motion. The rates are at the teller screens (tellers cannot see them until authorized). I have received confirmation that the President did in fact sign-off on activation yesterday evening, which explains all of the bank action last night and today. I was just informed that they are completing the final checks and balances now and that the party is scheduled for today.
9-26-2013 Newshound Guru Shredd This is good for all of us internationally but is expensive to Iraq, but here's the thing…as Iraq becomes more and more multi-sector sufficient, imports will fall and…exports are rising, so that means net exports unquestionably increase. A higher exchange rate will discourage imports (reducing expense) and encourage exports (increasing revenue)…add this to all the wonderful news around the banking sector becoming fully integrated, compliant, and regulated primes the entire economic bubble! We are watching truly amazing history being made right before our eyes! [post 2 of 2]
9-26-2013 Newshound Guru Shredd I think it's easily overlooked what effect the rate change will have on exports/imports…When exchange rates change, the relative prices of exports and imports also change, which causes exports, imports, net exports, and aggregate demand to change. As the dinar gains strength above the true rate of the dollar, Iraqi consumers are bound to buy more internationally-made products, causing imports to increase. [post 1 of 2…stay tuned]
9-26-2013 Intel Guru Loechin Guys we have waited years so I can wait a few more hours… Guess what we have to. [do all the banks need to be open…] yes.
9-26-2013 Newshound Guru Adam Montana 3. Not much news on the HCL over the last week, but nothing negative either, so we're looking for a couple of key dates, which are: 4. Tomorrow, Saturday, and next Thursday are key meetings for Iraq. I am looking forward to seeing some positive news at one of these dates and finally
5. the fundamental reasons for my involvement in the Iraqi Dinar (IQD) remain positive andI am still looking forward to a realistic increase in the value. [post
2 of 2]
9-26-2013 Newshound Guru Adam Montana Here's what is REALLY happening with the Dinar. 1. The CBI is the market maker, they are the ones who decide what the Dinar is exchanged/traded/bought/sold for… and at this time, they are still selling the IQD for 1166:1. There is no official change in the value, nor is there an official change in the "name". 2. Iraq is still working on a WTO membership which will do wonderful things for the ability of Iraq to increase the value of their currency, in my opinion to as high as a dollar… but realistically that is the top end of where they would come out. [post 1 of 2….stay tuned]
9-26-2013 Intel Guru Mnt Goat We are now basically awaiting for the RV to align with just a couple of events. They have a timeframe defined…I believe the RV will happen sooner than later and I am hearing they are planning to have us in the banks prior to September 30th but no later than early October. Today is Thursday 9/26, it is late September and we are now just entering this timeframe when the RV could in fact occur. I am not calling the RV today or tonight but the process is in motion and we should see it very shortly and I mean very shortly. [post 3 of 3]
9-26-2013 Intel Guru Mnt Goat My CBI contact has told me that the CBI of Iraq will begin the process by posting the new rate on their site. This will be followed by rolling the rates out to the exchanges and banks. There is a whole new CBI site that will come up at this time. The auctions will then also end. Just prior to the revaluation look for the rate on the CBI site to change drastically to be almost cut in half to something around 500-600. This will be a sign of the proximity of the full revaluation happening. It will then happen very soon after. [post 2 of 3….stay tuned]
9-26-2013 Intel Guru Mnt Goat I have noted in my last 3 posts over many weeks that the window of opportunity for the RV would be the later part of September and early October timeframe. I said this because I knew that there were certain other events that must align to this timeframe. Note that I did say timeframe not specific dates… no one knows the date or rate for sure. … the RV could not possible happen until other events mature…they must align to a common timeframe, a window. [post 1 of 3….stay tuned]
9-26-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony Talked to bank personnel and rates are being loaded by regions, so that no one can exchange tonight and the process should be completed sometime tonight. If everything goes as planned and there are no hiccups, we are cleared to start the exchange. They have the option to start tomorrow at bank opening or whatever time they deem. Current rates being loaded are IQN $25.87, VNN – $2.87 and IDN – $1.08. We will have to wait until the morning to see if these rates hold. [post 2 of 2]
9-26-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony All I can tell you is that it looks like what you have been waiting for could finally be here. Bank people are saying the rates have returned and are at the teller screens. I have received information and confirmation that several countries are looking at the exact same rates that we are…..USD vs IQN. These rate are also live at their teller screens.Hong Kong, Australia, UK all say that the rates are live and identical. Rates are identical at WF, BOFA and CHASE. [post 1 of 2….stay tuned]
9-25-2013 Intel Guru MarkZ Close folks, very close. World financial news has it written all over it… Even one of my small town local bankers seems excited over this all of a sudden this week.
9-25-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony The system has been updated, the codes have been updated, a new authority has been put in place, the banks, call centers and cash in centers are manned. They have been told it is done. The word of the day is no longer imminent, it is no longer soon. The new world of the day is DONE, DONE, DONE. Everyone we called said it is done. It hasn’t been announced but it is completed, rates are live and are all the same to the penny. Just waiting for it to be announced and it could happen at any time. The rates are unbelievable, higher than any rate that I have ever told you before. The U.S. negotiated it up and we are going to reap the benefits. The 30 days cash in is still in place. The Rupiah is now at $1.08. It will not go live until all banks receive the 800#’s from the UST and as soon as they are issued the rates will go live. It’s a Superfantastic Day!!
9-25-2013 Newshound GuruMillionday the oil and gas law or hcl is done and is headed for parliament. the confidence in the dinar can only come if the rate is set – period. we have on the 28th + a banking conference that has not happened before — they are working all week as well to get all the laws in place? this is amazing — and also the global meetings have us all seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. i have to say that iraq is going to be a huge driving force in the market and guess what? we are all invested in its return. [post 2 of 2]
9-25-2013 Newshound GuruMillionday i have a huge long list of many
countries that are meeting over their conventions — activation of multiple
countries and their conventions with iraq — meaning contracts and trade
agreements… parliament is to continue meeting until all is done…they have
orders, huge news and huge order. you know i never ever bring intel but let me say oh boy this is looking as if we are looking at huge progress… [post 1 of 2….stay tuned]
9-25-2013 Intel Guru EXOGEN One of 30m sources is continuing to hold strong and steady that the rate is very high. Yesterday there is a greater than 100% chance we will be in the bank this week. That has been revised that we should be in the bank tomorrow [Wednesday]. Everything that 30M says has been confirmed through multiple sources. All resources have been confirmed there is no turning back. The 64 million question is why were 198 countries present at the UN today. Multiple persons have shared with 30M that it is going down tonight into tomorrow [Wednesday]. It will go this week. Everyone is confirming this including his (30M) UN source
9-24-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony Now what you really care about is have I heard that the RV is still scheduled to be presented to us and when. Well the answer is a resounding YESSSSSS. Several agencies in D.C. and contacts from all around the world are confident that this could at any moment, but the best times are when all U.S. banks are either open or closed. There is a time scheduled for tonight, BUT WE SHALL SEE. The banks brought their people in early this morning and they were ready to receive the masses. So the banks are not the holdup. The call centers and cashout centers are manned right at this moment and call center employees are currently on lockdown. Several banks have notified their centers that this should be the last night (let’s hope so). [post 2 of 2]
9-24-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony Well I'm happy to tell you once again that there are no computer problems, the banks have the rates and they are matching bank to bank. Every 3 letter agency has indicated that they have signed off on the release and are just as frustrated as we are that it has not been completed. Iraq has done all that they can to make this happen. They are in full agreement and their process has been completed enough that they only need to continue playing their role until the announcement. This has brought and continues to increase the last thing that was required of them…peace and stability. [post1 of 2….stay tuned]
9-24-2013 Intel Guru Loechin As of midnight last night everyone was still in agreement that all was still positive. We have heard that the rates were live for 45 minutes so rest assured they couldn't do that if the process was not complete. There is no holdup, and if there was, no one I talk to knows what it is…I don't know
why it has not shown yet but I am hopeful for today.
9-24-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING WAS ON TRACK FOR A LAST NIGHT ANNOUNCEMENT AND THEN A PROBLEM
WITH SOME BANK SCREEN'S APPEARANCE HAD TO BE CORRECTED AND NOW THIS MORNING I WAS INFORMED THERE ARE/WERE/IS PROBLEM REGARDING THE UST. THE INFORMATION JUST NOW FURNISHED ME IS THAT LAST NIGHT THE "BIG BANKS" HAD DIFFERENT RATES SHOWING WHICH SHOULD HAVE ALL BEEN THE SAME RATE. THAT IS WHAT THE UST IS/HAD/DID CORRECT. AS I WAS INFORMED TODAY COULD STILL BE IN
9-24-2013 Intel Guru Mnt Goat I have some really good sources in CBI and they are telling me Iraq still must post the new IQN rate on their CBI site to make it official and final. The IQD rate will not be activated until the IQN goes international…and it will be the catalyst that will begin the final process in bringing us the activation of the IQD rate in the USA and other countries and be the trigger for the other international currency revaluations as part of the global currency reset of over 190 currencies. [post 2 of 2]
9-24-2013 Intel Guru Mnt Goat I am hearing from my IMF contact that the final rates are now situated and poised to go live, but will not go live just yet. It is not a day by day watch until we are in the appropriate window. This window…must be a coordination of multiple events. I still do not expect to see this RV until later in September or early October. It is now late September. This Thursday 9/26 begins yet another excellent window of opportunity for this RV to happen. This window is extended out through mid October. [post 1 of 2….stay tuned]
9-24-2013 Intel Guru Loechin The information continues to pour in with confirmations that are undeniable that we are here.I have heard from every agency, bank source, and person I speak to in the intel field. All agree that this is the last hurrah. Remember to use IQN and VNN when you exchange. The rates are still very very very high for the IQN and the VNN.
9-24-2013 Intel Guru Kaperoni Article: “Decision to reset the currency
.. Not in the early” More than likely these are tribal leaders who don’t want change. Remember, many of these areas use fake dinar amongst themselves for trading. Once this event happens, that dinar becomes worthless. You never know the motives of some of these people. But with the signed agreements and momentum towards a free market, my bet is this will get done soon.
9-24-2013 Intel Guru Eagle1 [via BulldogFord65] the UST reported: they have completed all of their background work for the global currency reset on Saturday;they have made 2 efforts today, but all was pulled from front screens at 6:45 PM tonight [Monday], and do not know when we will see it.
9-24-2013 Intel Guru Frank26 [via BulldogFord65] Iraq is not in control of the monetary reform, the IMF is in control. Many speak of “delays” to the RV, however there is no date, so there can be no delay, it’s a process… all banks are not ready yet; this should not be viewed as a “delay,” this is a process, and banks are still receiving downloads of information; We have seen odd rates showing up on ForEx, and they are all over the place from $2.40 to $8.80.
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